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We have sketchy documentation on the older phones that were produced by Western Electric prior to 1950. This page will expand in the coming months but for now this is what I have. Schematics and other technical information from the Bell System Practices (hereafter referred to as 'BSP')are available here and some photos in the future.
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The Phone Company had to make 'ring voltage,' normally 90VAC at 20 cycles, using special Ringing Voltage Generators. A regular electric motor drove a magneto (similar to the ones that were cranked by hand on phones), to provide ringing voltage. Offered is a wonderful old Western Electric TA-43/PT Field Telephone set made for the US Army Signal Corps. Looks like it has a 1952 manufacturers date. Korean war era, although I hear these were still used in the Vietnam War. It has a Tobyhanna Army Depot overhaul/repair tag possibly dated 4-2-1960. Western Electric Model 233 Pay Phone Western Electric Model 233 Payphone Patent No. 2,891,112 Click to Enlarge. This is one of the last 3-slot pay telephones made by Western Electric before the development of the single-slot pay phone. The linkage between this 1960s era phone and the 1912 phone is quite evident.
The 'Hybrid' Model - the Western Electric 5302
The model 5302 is a rare breed due to the limited numbers that were made. It is a cross between the 302 and the newer 500 model that replaced the 302. Western Electric apparently had a lot of parts on hand to make more 302 models when the 500 model was ready for production, so instead of scrapping the parts they made a modified housing that looked more like the 500 set than the 302 and used the 302 parts inside. Both the F and G type handsets were used on the 5302.
Obtained is a copy of an internal New Jersey Bell plant letter dated April 11, 1958 with guidelines on when to use a 300 series set or the 5300 series set. Click HERE to read the letter.
Here are some photos of the 5302 that David Massey owns:
Large Photos of the Inside:
Base (Chassis) -Top Cover with Dial and Switchook
Here is the Bell System Practices section on the 302 and 5302:
Model 302 and 5302 - PDF file of section C38.551.
Western Electric 302Telephone
Quoting from the original manual, 'TheNo. 302 Type Telephone Sets are the new combined sets and represent the latest developmentof the Western Electric Company in telephone station equipment. The telephone set mountingconsists of a housing and a base on which is mounted the induction coil, condenser, ringerand other apparatus so that the telephone set mounting and hand set form the completetelephone set.'
To view schematics, clickon phone model below:
302AW
- 302BW/CW/DW
- 302EW
Here are some photos of the inside wiring of the model 302 which you can view by clicking on the following links:
The following were contributed by
Mike Elmore
- Model 102
- Model 202
- Model 206
- Model 211
- Model 212212L schematic,Table A, Table B and C (from my BSP)
- Model 302A
- Model 302 BW & DW
The following GIF and PDF files werecreated from hard-copy drawings contributed by ATCA member Bobby Koch:
WE_211 C1 Body.gif - WE_211 C1 Body.pdf
Gma 3150 drivers windows 10. WE 211 G1 Body.gif - WE 211 G1 Body.pdf
WE 211 G7 Body.gif - WE 211 G7 Body.pdf
WE 211J/L Hand Telephone Set.gif - WE 211J/L Hand Telephone Set.pdf
The following were contributed by 'Jake' R. L. Jacobsen
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FALL 2005 - School for our two youngest children began the second week of August at a new school for them since we are moving to a new school district. My wife and I took the kids to their first day of school at Ford Elementary and to my surprise I saw a Western Electric model 317 wood phone hanging on the wall near the school's office! It was missing the receiver cord and the mouth piece. I came back a few days later with my camera and took some photos. Here is one photo:
This model phone is described on the ATCA website as follows: 'Catalogs in 1909 show a new version of the No. 317. The external terminals were removed along with the need for a cathedral top. Along with eliminating the exposed electric terminals on the top of the phone, Western Electric eliminated the exposed wires on the receiver as well. The door hinges were moved from right to left. The phone's dimensions remained the same.'
I asked the principal of the school how they came across this phone and was told it was part of an estate sale of the Ford family that the school was named after and the PTA bought the phone at the estate sale.
Eric Korenman sent me these photos of a phone he sold on ebay. It is the Western Electric A1 model:
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These are scans from 'Hawkins Electrical Guide' published in 1917! I have the complete set (10 volumes) from my grandfather. These books cover almost every imaginable topic on electricity including electrotheraputics, motors, elevators and other 'modern' devices of that era eighty years ago! |
Magneto telephone set | Western Electric Automatic Intercommunicating Telephone Set | Automatic Selector Telephone Desk Stand with dial in base | Hotel, Wall and desk stand set with bell box |
'Telephone Troubles' shows the first two pages of a chapter on troubleshooting phones and phone networks of the 1917 era. Other scans available from this chapter by e-mail request. | Bell bi-polar receiver | Bi-polar hand receiver | Carbon Transmitter |
You can get these 800 series and brand new reproductions to buy here at Vintage Phones (click on the phone to see more details):
Kellogg Telephones
This is by no means complete or comprehensive, but will serve to give collectors an idea of Kellogg's range and help in identification. The key characteristic in identifying a Kellogg phone is the transmitter arm mount, as shown on the previous page. The model numbers given here are simply an indicator of a common model from each series - the phones were produced in a wide range of configurations, each with its own number.
Two box magneto wall phone, late 1890s, model number unknown
Two box magneto wall phone, late 1890s, wide battery box for 'long distance' use. Model number unknown.
Early phones were often built into elaborate tables to improve their appearance. Early 1900s.
2485 Wall phone. 1911.
2536 with later carbon disk lightning arrestor. About 1915.
2467 'Hotel Phone'
2481 'Bridging' party line phone
No 1 Microphone, the first GrabAPhone. 1905.
No. 22 Flexiphone
No 64 Candlestick (Desk Stand). Made from nickel-plated brass.
No 18 Adjustaphone
No 340 CB Wall phone
No 377 CB Wall phone.
No 428 CB wall phone, shorter case. Later versions were designated F730
2812 magneto wall phone. The Cathedral Top has gone, and the terminals moved inside the case. The lightning arrestor is now on the side of the case.
No 186 steel-cased CB 'Hotel Phone'
F2809 magneto wall phone. By now all the decoration has been discontinued, giving a plain box case. /medal-of-honor-full-download.html. The transmitter arm has been done away with and the writing slope set at a steeper angle. Metal parts are finished in black enamel. An intermediate model, the F2884, had a short stamped transmitter arm and the older almost horizontal shelf. About 1916.
F1809 magneto wall phone
F1809 Grabaphone model.
F9 candlestick. Most metal parts are now black enamelled steel.
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F111 magneto GrabAPhone, now with Kellogg's receiver, base and cradle.
The CB equivalent was F115.
110 desk phone withGrabAPhone handset
F2827 extension GrabAPhone.
F729 CB Residence phone in oak.
F729 in steel
F801 CB wall phone with enclosed bells. Steel case.
F803 Steel-cased automatic phone.
600 candlestick. By now (1926) all metal parts are black enamelled, and the bells are enclosed in the steel bell box.
F301 automatic candlestick. About 1933.
F135 automatic GrabAPhone
Western Electric Phone Serial Numbers
730 Masterphone based on a cutdown candlestick base. 1930s.
F817 steel wall phone
Masterphone 700A. Kelloggs first bakelite telephone. 1930.
3809 Masterphone wallset.
900A Masterphone . 1933.
F925 auto Masterphone, 1935.
Wall Masterphone
F9830 side mounting Masterphone (Spacesaver)
F9827 extension Masterfone
K1000 'Redbar' desk phone. 1947.
WE 500-series Telephone Types - Plus 1500, 2500, 3500 .
K1000 with magneto box built on under phone.
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F9900 wall phone
K500 Western Electric-style desk phone. 1954.
Wallphone equivalent. 1956.
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